The Finish Line Podcast
 

The Finish Line Podcast

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Kealan, a surgeon, and Cody, a financial advisor, discuss the intersection of faith, generosity, and personal finance. They’re joined by a variety of guests, including pastors, financial advisors, radically generous givers, entrepreneurs, CEOs, and nonprofit leaders to explore one central question: How do we best steward God’s wealth? On The Finish Line Podcast, you’ll hear challenging and inspirational stories of tremendous generosity. You’ll also learn from experts in multiple fields about topics like setting a financial finish line, giving efficiently and effectively, and teaching generosity to your children. More than anything, though, you’ll see how God is constantly at work redeeming the world He created and loves. Visit the website at www.finishlinepledge.com to learn more.

Episodes

Chris Gardner, Financial Advisor, on Mobilizing $1 Billion for the Kingdom (Ep. 150)

Monday Aug 04, 2025

Monday Aug 04, 2025

Chris Gardner’s journey began in Mexico and Peru, where he was raised on the mission field as the son of a missionary. Those early years shaped his faith and calling—he began preaching at a young age and, by 18, was already pastoring and planting churches. His experiences in ministry gave him a deep understanding of stewardship, generosity, and the role money plays in Kingdom work.  

Years later, Chris transitioned from leading a large ministry in Peru to a career in wealth management in the U.S., carrying with him a bold goal: to help deploy a billion dollars for Kingdom purposes in his lifetime. Today, he works with clients to view their wealth not as something to own, but something to steward.  

Major Topics Include:

  • Chris’s spiritual background and history on the mission field
  • His broadened perspective on the world from life on the mission field 
  • How he became a pastor at 18
  • Viewing generosity from both sides
  • How fundraising with his family on the mission field still impacts his life today
  • His story of transitioning back to the US and getting into financial advising
  • The importance of a finish line for financial advisors
  • Encouraging clients to set a finish line 
  • A steward, not an owner
  • A walk through his yearly finish line thought process
  • Generosity lessons from a Peruvian Christmas
  • The story of his book and what is covers
  • Security comes from God, not money
  • Influencing the Church to generous giving
  • A call to surrender your assets to God daily

QUOTES TO REMEMBER

  • “Generosity is not measured by how much we give away, but how tightly we hold on to what we keep.”
  • “The idea of enough is a fallacy, and it will never be reached.”
  • “My goal in life is to deploy one billion dollars for Kingdom impact.”
  • “You don’t need to wait to be wealthy to live generously. You need to decide that generosity is your wealth.”
  • “We’re always going to need more unless we have a finish line.”
  • “Generosity is not found in an amount, it’s found in a mindset.”
  • “Invest what you can for the impact of someone else.”
  • “Impact is the true dividend of wealth. And generosity is how you compound it.”
  • “Don’t wait to give your money away from a pine box.”
  • “How much am I willing to charge the Owner to steward His wealth?” 
  • “God doesn’t need your money, He desires your heart. And generosity is the clearest map to where your heart really is.”
  • “Surrender is not a one-time decision, it’s a daily choice.”

LINKS FROM THE SHOW

BIBLE REFERENCES FROM THE SHOW

2 Timothy 2:2 | Teaching Teachers  

and what you have heard from me in the presence of many witnesses entrust to faithful men, who will be able to teach others also.

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Dan Vogel, Founder and CEO of Flourish Fund, on the Powerful Synergy of Collaborative Giving Funds (Ep. 149)

Monday Jul 28, 2025

Monday Jul 28, 2025

Dan Vogel, founder and CEO of Flourish Fund, has carried a lifelong passion for solving big social problems that are close to the heart of God. As a young boy, Dan was drawn to leadership that would make an improved difference in the systems that were meant to address those problems. From the White House to overseas to a consulting firm in Boston, Dan’s extensive professional background working in government, economic development, and nonprofit realms, all set the stage for the launch of Flourish Fund.  

Flourish Fund is a giving fund that channels pooled capital from givers alongside extensive problem area research to bring about large, system level change. Flourish Fund’s unique effectiveness is found in their focus on collaborative giving and cooperation between organizations, both faith-based and secular, who offer various approaches toward the same goal. Their first fund called Flourish Children and Families is focused on reimagining the foster care system, and they’ve already made impressive progress.  

Major Topics Include:

  • Dan’s faith and career journey
  • The story of Flourish Fund
  • Traditional philanthropy vs Christian philanthropy 
  • The need for growth in impact assessment in Christian giving spaces
  • What Flourish Fund is about and how it works
  • Tackling big social problems that matter to the heart of God
  • Reimagining foster care in the US with Flourish Fund
  • Building strategy and success evaluation into the fund structure
  • The portfolio approach to collaborative giving
  • Doing collaborative giving well
  • Three strategic opportunities to move the needle in foster care
  • Navigating collaboration between secular and faith-based organizations
  • Knowing where to channel resources 
  • Deciding where to focus next
  • What to look for in a giving fund
  • Tips or givers to engage with the problems that are on God’s heart

QUOTES TO REMEMBER

  • “I became convinced that there was room in the marketplace for a new kind of Kingdom problem-solving institution that was trying to connect capital differently with social innovators who were trying to do good work in the name of Jesus.”
  • “What might it actually take to move the needle?”
  • “No individual organization, even if they are crushing it, is capable of solving a systemic problem on their own.”
  • “How might we think differently about what is possible for what we can do together?” 
  • “Collaborative giving is the next frontier of effective stewardship”.
  • “We want to enable people to have proximity to the problem rather than putting distance between the giver and the receiver.”
  • “We want to enable and strengthen local ecosystems of care that are anchored by the Church, working in partnership with community organizations, government, and volunteers doing different sets of things to meet the physical, emotional, spiritual, and relational needs of vulnerable kids and families.”
  • “When Christians have been at their best through the ages, we’ve tended to build big tents and work with odd bedfellows. We have unique things that we can bring to bear, but we can’t to it alone so we have to figure out how to work with a bunch of different people, and if we can do that well, it will point people back to Jesus.”

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Ron Anderson, Financial Advisor, on the Intersection of Generosity and Rest (Ep. 148)

Monday Jul 21, 2025

Monday Jul 21, 2025

Ron Anderson, and founder of Plan A Wealth Management, grew up in a farming family in Nebraska where seeds of financial wisdom and deep faith were planted early. After college, he launched into the world of financial advising—but it wasn’t until years later, after moving through several firms, that he stepped out to start his own practice, one grounded in biblical truth and eternal purpose.  

A turning point in Ron’s life came at a Generous Giving Conference, where God stirred something new in him—a vision for radical generosity and bold obedience. Since then, Ron has committed his life and work to listening for God’s voice and faithfully following where He leads, no matter how uncertain the path. His story is marked by courageous leaps of faith, remarkable provision, and a deep trust in God’s economy.  

Ron also shares his conviction that rest is a discipline, not a luxury—both for himself and those he serves. In this episode, he opens up about how cultivating rhythms of rest has helped him, his clients, and his community live more joyfully, generously, and purposefully.  

Major Topics Include:

  • Ron’s early life on a Nebraska farm and faith background
  • How he viewed money and wealth in his early career
  • His introduction to generosity and biblical money principles
  • Tanking leaps of faith in generosity
  • Growing trust through obedience in giving
  • How God speaks to Ron about generosity
  • Learning rest through learning trust in God
  • Creating a structure for sabbath rest in his life
  • His sabbath plan and rest retreat for generous givers
  • What his family sabbath plan looks like each week
  • How sabbath rest has changed his work rhythm 
  • What he wishes more people understood about generosity and rest
  • Ron’s passion for faith driven investing
  • Advice for using a giving account

QUOTES TO REMEMBER

  • “If you’re listening and you’re following Him, He’s going to take care of you, give you unimaginable opportunities, and an adventure of a lifetime in the process.”
  • “If you say ‘yes’ to God, He will take you on a journey that you will never regret going on.”
  • “I asked everyone else how much to give, but I hadn’t thought about asking God.”
  • “God was showing me He was in control of how much money I had.”
  • “All I had to do was listen and obey, and He takes care of the rest.”
  • “God takes us on a journey when we relinquish control.”
  • “Generosity costs me a lot and gives me just as much in return.”
  • “I think we’re supposed to give to what God cares about.”

LINKS FROM THE SHOW

BIBLE REFERENCES FROM THE SHOW

Psalm 127:2-3 | He Gives His Beloved Sleep  

It is in vain that you rise up early and go late to rest, eating the bread of anxious toil; for he gives to his beloved sleep. Behold, children are a heritage from the Lord, the fruit of the womb a reward.  

Hebrews 4:1 | The Promise of His Rest  

Therefore, while the promise of entering his rest still stands, let us fear lest any of you should seem to have failed to reach it.

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Caleb Breakey, Founder of Renown Publishing, on Telling Your Generosity Story (Ep. 147)

Monday Jul 14, 2025

Monday Jul 14, 2025

Caleb Breakey, author and founder of Renown Publishing, has a passion for the transforming power of storytelling. Caleb has been a student of the story-writing craft from a young age, and after a successful career in sports journalism, felt called by God to shift into fiction and writing novels that could have a positive impact on the lives of the readers. Through a series of faith-steps, Caleb eventually founded Renown Publishing, a unique publishing company with a focus on empowering leaders and families to share their own stories.  

Caleb and the Renown Publishing team have worked with many generous leaders and families to bring their generous stories to life. Caleb is adamant that everyone has an incredibly valuable story to share, and those stories are the most powerful way in which we speak into the lives of others.   

Major topics include:

  • His story of faith and pursuing God’s unique call
  • Shifting from journalism to becoming a fiction author 
  • The need for stories of generous givers
  • Helping families pass down a legacy of wisdom and experiences through story
  • The calling to start Renown Publishing
  • Writing books that catalyze the Holy Spirit’s movement in someone’s life
  • Teaching to share their story in a way that’s compelling and honest through workshops
  • Lessons of generosity and faith from working with families
  • Learning from storytelling in Scripture 
  • Advice for people beginning to explore their own story
  • Caleb’s 18-month process of helping authors create an engaging story from their memories
  • Stewarding your story well
  • Being generous with your story
  • Tips to start writing your story

QUOTES TO REMEMBER

  • “A huge part of my life journey has been learning to see people the way God sees them.”
  • “These people live as if Jesus is real.”
  • “One of the most insidious things that enemy can do is to silence us to not share our story because that is where God gets the greatest glory.”
  • “I want to get the right people with the right stories influencing society.”
  • “Everyone else is looking for themselves in your story.”
  • “When you go through the process of telling your story with great intentionality, it will do far more for you than what you think it will do for others.”
  • “What your future generations need in great detail is how your values and wisdom were formed, because they need to get there on their own, and the way to do that is through story.”
  • “We can learn more from our failures than our successes.”
  • “You have never not had an incredibly important story.”
  • “History informs, story transforms.”
  • “We need to get to the point where we see our stories as God’s glory.”
  • “Your story is someone else’s life raft.”
  • “Legacy moves at the pace of relationship, relationship is tied to trust, and trust is tied to story.”

LINKS FROM THE SHOW

BIBLE REFERENCES FROM THE SHOW

Judges 6:1-8:35 | The Story of Gideon  

2 Timothy 1:7 | A Spirit Not of Fear  

for God gave us a spirit not of fear but of power and love and self-control.

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Johan du Preez, Impact Investor, on Blending Giving and Investments to Tackle Poverty (Ep. 146)

Monday Jul 07, 2025

Monday Jul 07, 2025

Johan du Preez is a seasoned South African entrepreneur and investor, and the Founder of SAAD Investment Holdings and the Tree of Life Foundation. Johan began his career path as a pharmacist in his early twenties and spent many years managing pharmacies that needed major turnaround. He then became the CEO of a large healthcare organization before the Spirit led him to start his investment company with a focus on impacting the Kingdom of God.  

Johan brings a unique perspective as a faith-driven leader who channels private equity investment returns into longterm, sustainable generosity through an investment firm contained within a charitable foundation. From leading major corporate turnarounds to pioneering innovative giving platforms in South Africa, Johan’s life and work exemplify the intersection of strategic investing and radical generosity.  

Major topics include:

  • Johan’s early life and faith background
  • How becoming a pharmacist laid the foundations for what he does today
  • Integrating faith into business and money management
  • Strategically operating from the spirit realm in money and business
  • Realizing that money can help build God’s kingdom
  • The story of SAAD and the Tree of Life Foundation
  • What it looks like to let God own your business
  • Transitioning from health care insurance to financial services 
  • The difference between working with God and letting God work through you
  • Taking risks in Kingdom business
  • Depending on God when you don’t know what you’re doing
  • Investments that make an impact through business
  • Weighing “return first” and “impact first” investing
  • Using charitable capital through a donor advised fund
  • The beauty of collective giving
  • Thinking through investing versus giving
  • How to leverage all that you have to be a part of what God’s doing

QUOTES TO REMEMBER

  • “There’s only one way to be strategic, that is to operate in the spiritual realm. Otherwise, you are just reactive and tactical.”
  • “The eternal perspective is ultimately the one that saves you.”
  • “For God to work through you, you have to be dead.”
  • “When you involve God in your business and make it His business and say, ‘I’m just here to work for You,’ then you actually complicate it to a large extent because you had better make sure that you know what the Shareholder wants.”
  • “God is more interested in the character of the individuals that are involved in the company than about the results at the end of the day.”
  • “We are called to take risks for the Kingdom.”
  • “The best decisions I’ve ever made were based on what I did not know.”
  • “Collaboration is everyone exchanging their personal dreams for one larger dream.”

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Stan Reiff, Nonprofit Consultant at CapinCrouse, on God’s Provision in the Life of Faith (Ep. 145)

Monday Jun 30, 2025

Monday Jun 30, 2025

Stan Reiff, CPA and nonprofit consultant at CapinCrouse, has seen the faithfulness of God in difficult circumstances firsthand. Stan was born on the mission field, and in his early twenties, he and his wife felt called to missions like the generations before him. But Stan soon realized that the life of ministry that he was called to would look nothing like the life he had imagined. After many years of traumatic and costly circumstances, Stan was led on a journey that would take him from missionary to teacher to CPA and from Alaska to Atlanta where God would use his missions experience and accounting background to serve many nonprofits.   

At CapinCrouse, Stan helps faith-based nonprofits strengthen their governance, strategy, and operations, and his mission-field experience provides a deep personal understanding of ministry challenges to his consulting work. He previously served as Chief Operating Officer at Crown Financial Ministries and now draws on over 35 years of experience to help organizations thrive with integrity and purpose.   

Stan is also passionate about leading his family in a legacy of generosity, Kingdom work, and entrepreneurship, and he is full of practical wisdom to guide people into doing the same in their own families.  

Major topics include:

  • Stan’s remarkable backstory of faith and missions work in Alaska
  • Navigating traumatic events and a crisis of faith
  • Pivoting into bivocational ministry 
  • Becoming CPA through Alaska Game and Fish
  • Volunteering as budget coaches and seminar instructors with Crown
  • Became chief financial officer at Crown Financial after 20 years volunteering
  • Establishing rhythms and protocols for executive sabbaticals 
  • Helping CFM transition from radio to sharing principle world wide
  • Story of coming to work for CapinCrouse 
  • Personal takeaways from leaders in the generosity space
  • Their family’s journey to a financial finish line
  • Equipping kids and grandkids for generosity 
  • Developing family core values
  • Their “family legacy experiment”
  • What to look for in an organization as a donor

QUOTES TO REMEMBER

  • “If I can’t be on the front lines of ministry in a remote setting, then I will be part of the supply chain, and I will do the best I possibly can to help those who can go and are willing to go to have the best administrative support possible.”
  • “In many ways, I had to give up my passion to be a full time missionary and that was really difficult spiritually. But I came to understand that God had chosen to give us a child with disabilities, and that became my primary ministry.” 
  • “I love that I get to continue to marry my passion for missions, for ministry, along with the accounting experiences that God’s given me, and I get to live the dream in an ongoing fashion.”
  • “For me, the real learning came when I understood that God owns it all, not just the ten percent.”
  • “Money really isn’t a big deal. You can lose all your money in a day, and you can get it all back in a day.”
  • “Money is never the issue, it’s just an indicator of where the heart is.”
  • “It’s one thing to have a legacy of faith that’s generations long, but it’s also exciting to be in that first or second generation. It comes back to our first guiding principle, that faith has to be personal and it has to be yours, not some family member’s that’s preceded you.”
  • “Kingdom expands when you have more followers of Jesus who are committed to following Him in business, ministry or a combination. But it takes all of us working together to make sure the next generation is equally as passionate, committed, and engaged in Kingdom work.”

LINKS FROM THE SHOW

BIBLE REFERENCES FROM THE SHOW

Philippians 4:12-13 | The Secret of Being Content

I know what it is to be in need, and I know what it is to have plenty. I have learned the secret of being content in any and every situation, whether well fed or hungry, whether living in plenty or in want. I can do all this through him who gives me strength.

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Jennifer Holloran, President & CEO of the American Bible Society, on the Life-Changing Power of the Bible to Heal Communities (Ep. 144)

Monday Jun 23, 2025

Monday Jun 23, 2025

Jennifer Holloran, President and CEO of the American Bible Society, is an avid lover of Scripture and an expert in strategic leadership, operational excellence, and innovation. Jennifer was raised in a Christian home with lots of exposure to the Word, but it was in college that she learned to approach Scripture as a source of grace instead of condemnation. Jennifer’s career took an unexpected turn after college when God led her to combine her professional skills and love for the Scriptures at Wycliffe Bible Translators. She spent over twenty years there, starting as a typist and eventually becoming Chief Operating Officer before taking over as CEO of the American Bible Society.  

The American Bible Society has a rich history dating back to 1816, and is involved in nearly every aspect of Bible work, from translation to global distribution to engagement and advocacy. Jennifer has an amazing perspective on the power of God’s Word, how it is moving in the world today, and how the Church can help people everywhere be transformed as they get more engaged with the Scriptures.  

Major Topics Include:

  • Jennifer’s faith and career journey
  • How she fell in love with Scripture
  • Her surprise introduction to Bible translation through Wycliffe
  • Leadership principles in unexpected Bible stories
  • How God prepared her for work at American Bible Society
  • An overview of American Bible Society’s 209 year history
  • Helping people engage in the Scriptures 
  • ABS’s framework of access, engagement, and advocacy
  • Various aspects of Scripture access
  • Their “end-to-end” process—a multimodal approach to Bible access and engagement
  • The story and heart behind the ABS Trauma Healing Institute 
  • Helping people overcome barriers to Scripture
  • Finding solutions to inspire younger generations to engage with Scripture
  • AI as a tool for Bible engagement
  • How to move from Bible engagement to advocacy
  • Creativity in Bible distribution in hard-to-reach places
  • Effectiveness of a collective impact alliance in reaching Bible distribution goals

QUOTES TO REMEMBER

  • “It wasn’t long after I finished college that God brought me to Wycliffe Bible Translators, and that opened up a whole world of understanding Scripture in a completely new way.”
  • “I found that the more that I began to dig into Scripture, the more there was to discover.”
  • “We want to move people from that place of just having access to the Bible and have them step into engagement, and that starts with curiosity.”
  • “Today, we at the American Bible Society still get to be involved in translation and distribution, but we’re looking at the whole Scripture engagement journey and how we can come alongside the Church to support the ministry of helping people to take the next step with Scripture.”
  • “We need to understand where Gen Z and Gen Alpha are coming from and what speaks to them as unique groups with unique values, preferences, and barriers that might keep them from Scripture. Then we can work together with the Church to help co-create solutions to reach that generation.”
  • “There’s something amazing about having the Bible as a foundation that we can come together and have conversation around and learn from one another across faith traditions.”
  • “Our vision is ‘God’s Word transforming all people.’ That’s what I want to see happening, and I think the more we can get the Church engaged and we can work together on this, I believe that it’s possible.”

LINKS FROM THE SHOW

BIBLE REFERENCES FROM THE SHOW

Matthew 13:1-23 | Parable of the Sower

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Laura Gish, VP for Prayer and Advancement at Mission Mutual, on the Synergy of Collective Impact Alliances (Ep. 143)

Monday Jun 16, 2025

Monday Jun 16, 2025

Laura Gish, VP for Prayer and Advancement at Mission Mutual, is a prayer leader and mobilizer of givers and intercessors in collective impact spaces. Laura was raised in a faith-filled home and felt an exceptional call to prayer and the Bible in her early teens. Through her father’s job, Laura was deeply connected to the Bible translation space from a young age and was able to witness the evolution of the illumiNations impact alliance to what it is today. In her early career, Laura served at Seed Company where she helped to spearhead a prayer movement which saw huge breakthroughs in the field and in funding.  

That experience led her to Mission Mutual which serves as a backbone for multiple impact alliances in a variety of impact spaces. She has an incredible perspective on being founded and rooted in prayer, personally and as an organization, and the necessity of collaboration in the Great Commission arena. You won’t want to miss all she had to share!  

Major topics include:

  • Laura’s early life, faith background, and early career
  • The story of Seed Company’s donor funded prayer program
  • Laura’s favorite outcomes from the prayer program
  • Helping organizations develop a foundation of prayer
  • The unique power of a collective impact alliance
  • Key characteristics of a collective impact framework
  • The story and vision of Mission Mutual
  • Differences between a giving fund and an impact alliance
  • What is a backbone service provider?
  • Multiplying ROI in the Kingdom through collaboration 
  • Why collaboration matters to donors
  • Best practices for an alliance 
  • Structuring a practice of prayer as the center point of alliance culture
  • Raising up nearly 350,000 intercessors in the ETEN collective impact alliance
  • Next steps for a giver to move toward an impact alliance
  • What’s happening beyond Bible translation
  • Creating a community giving circle

QUOTES TO REMEMBER

  • “When God says go, you just go.”
  • “As we give to something, our heart expands. And as we pray for something, it grows our heart to want to give.”
  • “Prayer is not just a strategy. It is the strategy.”
  • “Prayer is the catalyst for intimacy with God.”
  • “Look at what God can do when we put aside our individual logos and agendas, and we pursue the collective power of what partnership can be when it’s united under a vision God has given His people to pursue and it’s rooted in prayer.” 
  • “Generosity begets generosity.”
  • “When we yoke together in unity, the collective impact capacity isn’t just doubled, it’s exponentially expanded.”
  • “Prayer is one of the most generous things we can offer.”
  • “God changes our hearts when we pray.”
  • “Be a faithful steward of the brokenness that God has planted inside of you.”

LINKS FROM THE SHOW

BIBLE REFERENCES FROM THE SHOW

Psalm 127:1a | The Lord Builds the House  

Unless the Lord builds the house, those who build it labor in vain.  

John 17:21 | Oneness in the Church  

that they may all be one, just as you, Father, are in me, and I in you, that they also may be in us, so that the world may believe that you have sent me.  

Isaiah 60:3 | Drawn to Your Light  

And nations shall come to your light, and kings to the brightness of your rising.  

Ecclesiastes 4:12b | Strength in Unity  

a threefold cord is not quickly broken.  

Mark 16:15 | The Great Commission

And he said to them, “Go into all the world and proclaim the gospel to the whole creation.

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Brian Cochran, Financial Advisor, on Helping Clients Give Big and Give Efficiently (Ep. 142)

Monday Jun 09, 2025

Monday Jun 09, 2025

Brian Cochran, CFP and Certified Kingdom Advisor, leads John Moore Associates, a nationally respected advisory firm known for its integration of biblical wisdom and financial strategy. After beginning his career as an educator, Brian was mentored by the firm’s founder, John Moore, before stepping into leadership and continuing the firm’s mission to help families steward their wealth with eternal purpose.  

John Moore Associates stands out for its deeply rooted emphasis on generosity—equipping clients not just to give more, but to give with greater clarity, joy, and impact. Under Brian’s leadership, the firm has cultivated a unique culture where values-based planning and practical financial advice go hand in hand.  

Brian offers powerful frameworks that help givers align their financial decisions with their deepest convictions. More importantly, he lives out what he teaches—modeling the joy and contentment that come from a generous life.  

Major Topics Include:

  • Brian’s personal and spiritual background
  • His journey from education to faith-based financial planning
  • Coming to the intersection of faith and finance
  • The great impact of John Moore’s mentorship
  • Contentment as the start of good money management 
  • Advice for finding contentment
  • Frameworks for implementing contentment in personal and business finances
  • Creating a culture of generosity with associates and clients
  • The significance of tracking clients’ giving
  • The problem of over-saving 
  • Addressing the spiritual side of scarcity mindset
  • Giving opportunities through tax liabilities
  • Honoring God with your assets and income

QUOTES TO REMEMBER

  • “Contentment is a key step to generosity.”
  • “Contentment comes with more satisfaction than always striving for more.”
  • “Can I continue to see all the abundance around me that other people have but say that I don’t need it?”
  • “Allowing and encouraging clients to give away the assets that we would otherwise manage and charge fees on is very counter-cultural and counter-intuitive, but it’s the best part of what we do.”
  • “When you oversave, you not only miss opportunities for giving, but you miss opportunities for living.”
  • “I’ve never met somebody who said that one of their financial goals was to be greedy, and you fight greed with generosity.”
  • “It’s way more fun to see a client give away seven figures than it is to see someone go through retirement or pay for their kid’s college education. Those things are great, but watching people satisfy generosity goals is where it’s at, and sometimes it takes dozens of conversations to get there.”

LINKS FROM THE SHOW

BIBLE REFERENCES FROM THE SHOW

1 Timothy 6:6-7 | Godly Contentment  

But godliness with contentment is great gain, for we brought nothing into the world, and we cannot take anything out of the world.  

Proverbs 3:9 | Honor God with Income and Finances

Honor the Lord with your wealth and with the firstfruits of all your produce;

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John Hanger, Founder of BiblioNexus, When Silicon Valley Meets Bible Translation (Ep. 141)

Monday Jun 02, 2025

Monday Jun 02, 2025

John Hanger, founder of BiblioNexus, is a serial entrepreneur and a passionate giver who found himself deeply called into Bible translation. After supporting the movement for several years, John felt the need to get his hands dirty with what he knows best—launching a tech start-up.

BiblioNexus is a nonprofit tech company with the culture of a Silicon Valley start-up that is making waves in the Bible Translation space. BiblioNexus is a company of software experts in partnership with Bible translation experts working to build innovative solutions and try to move the needle in Bible translation.

Major Topics Include:

  • John’s story of God’s relentless pursuit
  • John’s introduction to the world of Bible translation
  • Amplifying your generosity by choosing a focus area and investing relationship
  • Using donor advised funds to help kids explore generosity
  • An innovative tech approach to Bible translation
  • AI’s role in Bible translation
  • The goal to have Scripture in all heart languages by 2033
  • The need for more Bible translation software apps for mobile phones

Quotes to Remember

  • “We felt the weight of the blessings we had received.”
  • “We settled on the theme of ‘evangelism’ for our giving plan.”
  • “There are 7,000 plus heart languages in the world and less than half of them have a Bible.”
  • “I knew the Bible was the most translated book in the history of the world, but I had no idea that there was still Bible poverty.”
  • “At the end of the day, the flywheel of discipleship and translation is study the Bible, understand the Bible, and then articulate it. That methodology is called FIA: familiarize, internalize, and articulate.”
  • “God’s moving people to release their content into an openly licensed environment knowing that the aquifer is now a mechanism through which that content
  • can be used worldwide.”
  • “We want to have at least some Scripture available in all 7,000 plus heart languages by 2033.”
  • “Only 40% of the world’s population lives near or has access to a power grid, but 96% of the world’s population has access to a mobile phone. So the mobile phone is a key technology being used, but little to none of the Bible translation related software products work on a mobile phone today.”

Links from the Show

Bible References from the Show

Galatians 1:10 | Approval of Man or God?

For am I now seeking the approval of man, or of God? Or am I trying to please man? If I were still trying to please man, I would not be a servant of Christ.

Luke 15:4-6 | The Lost Sheep

“What man of you, having a hundred sheep, if he has lost one of them, does not leave the ninety-nine in the open country, and go after the one that is lost, until he finds it? And when he has found it, he lays it on his shoulders, rejoicing. And when he comes home, he calls together his friends and his neighbors, saying to them, ‘Rejoice with me, for I have found my sheep that was lost.’

Matthew 6:19-21 | Treasures in Heaven

“Do not lay up for yourselves treasures on earth, where moth and rust destroy and where thieves break in and steal, but lay up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where neither moth nor rust destroys and where thieves do not break in and steal. For where your treasure is, there your heart will be also.

Matthew 28:19 | The Great Commission

Go therefore and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit,

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